White communities suffer huge losses from Black crime. The economics of the slave trade may have meant that it was cheaper to work someone to death rather than allowing him a comfortable old age. In the USA? My argument is that Africans were probably happily killing each other for women before the West turned up. Yet theyre so many centuries and generations removed from the crime, everybody involved with the decision-making is long-dead and while the responsible state still exists, in practice compensation comes from taxes paid by citizens who had no part in it all. His autobiography, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, details how he was sold into slavery aged 11, his experience of travelling the world as slave to a Royal Navy officer - who renamed him Gustavus Vassa - and how he bought his freedom from his final master, an English merchant in Montserrat. What has he got to say about that? We do not know how great the demand for women was. However, it applies to at least 80% of Americans. That was at the least unusual, particularly from a West European perspective bearing in mind the practice of slavery had pretty much fizzled out there. By a Senegalese author: The veiled genocide = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, MyBurningEars August 30, 2020 at 11:52 am Slavery within West African societies being different again I dont think the places with very high rates of local slavery were anything like the sugar plantations. During the Second World War, thousands of black American soldiers stationed in Britain were befriended by white Britons who opposed efforts by the white military to segregate them. I cant see the point of denying it was all pretty awful. Rather the constitution banned the slave trade and so it become economically worth it to make sure slaves lived longer. The evidence of this is that seasoned slaves, those exposed to the environment, sold for up to 50% more than new ones. Its entirely possible to think something was awful without feeling the slightest twinge of guilt or personal responsibility. That was a bad experience but he should know that you cannot judge a whole country by what happened when he was young. I generally reckon cant blame me, my distant relative was on your side arguments are pretty weak since relying on a doctrine of virtues of the fathers risks implicitly accepting sins of the fathers. He seems to be an interesting social historian and his TV series on the occupants of a single house over the centuries is very good, although I suspect a lot of the research is done by others, I look forward to an even handed expose of the entire slave trade from birth to capture, imprisonment, sale, transportation, arrival, sale, treatment and life while enslaved as well as the UKs role in stopping it, But it wont be on the BBC, and he wont be writing it I fear, @smfs Rather that certain western states, still in existence therefore potentially still liable, regulated and indeed encouraged the development of both the transatlantic slave trade and the slave-labour economic systems of the colonies, at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. He is the undisputed King of the Internet Pedants and Lord of the Unnecessary Snark. Peter completed his award-winning PhD, exploring stress and coping in elite sports coaching, at Sheffield Hallam in 2012. While I dont think they persuaded anyone, they did shift perspectives a bit. David Olusoga meets Janice Haber and her family, the descendents of Jewish . You can be redeemed, you worthless pasty people. Slavery within West African societies being different again I dont think the places with very high rates of local slavery were anything like the sugar plantations. You lost those two. The Barbados slave code of 1661 stripped Africans of all human rights, and set out ways in which they were to be punished, to exert control over their labour (mutilation of the face, slitting of nostrils, castration, execution). But a group of 12 disciples of Christ set out to change things. It's all down to people in their 20s, those at school and in their teens, who have a relationship with history which, says Prof Olusoga, is profoundly different from that of their parents and grandparents. I brought up paedophilia to demonstrate that there are things not worth my time. What has Nigeria ever done for him? Its a replay of the ecology nutters & the trannies. "The way history is viewed is changing. But werent they lucky compared to the other Germans in Stalingrad? They are pretty much airbrushed from history, whereas the transatlantic slave trade seems to be wall-to-wall on our TV screens and in our school textbooks. In the UK its not white people enslaving blacks anymore, but Asians enslaving other Asians, as in Leicesters clothing sweatshops. "This generation has the greatest knowledge-giving tool ever created and they have access to knowledge that I just did not have when I was younger. Then, in October, came a breakthrough. Young people - such as Lavinya Stennett who founded the Black Curriculum campaign group - have been calling for change. Prof Olusoga is not the only person who has been drawn to Equiano's story. And, of course, being half white, he is only entitled to half the reparation payment. We pretend we do not like slavery but actually we do not like slave traders. His dad met his mom at the city's university in the 1960s. This seems rather unlikely. Note, hes a renowned economist. Dr Peter Olusoga is a senior psychology lecturer at Sheffield Hallam university. David then moved with his mother and three siblings in the north-east of the UK. But you need a different approach if you dont think great-grandkids of the Confederacy are still fair game.) Hes welcome to pursue his line of thought but he should bear in mind that tolerance is, by its nature, in the gift of the powerful. No other race / culture was willing and able to do that. It is a form of self-loathing. The best and brightest minds in the UK defended Stalins slavery. In 1986 I came across the book Staying Power by the British journalist Peter Fryer. No doubt life expectancy of a slave was shorter than that for a free man. It is a good deed that must not go unpunished. He is a Cultural Marxist trying to destroy the West. @ Boganboy And even if you personally disagree with it, what would be the strongest argument for some form of legal settlement? Both groups today, especially the former, could reasonably claim historic persecution has reduced their present income and wealth. One sporting event that has captured your imagination I was fortunate enough to get tickets to see some of the basketball at the London 2012 Olympics, so my brother and I went to watch the GB vs. Spain game. He previously worked at JP Morgan for 18 years in a number of senior roles and was . I agree BIS. They did not care much for adult males. Then the adult men became profitable too. BurningEars August 30, 2020 at 3:07 pm Theres a flaw in arguments of the form frankly you should be glad I murdered your sister. Theres no point pretending Europeans who profited from either the transatlantic slave trade or the use of slave labour in the Americas were somehow doing a favour to the slaves involved. Well the universe has a law of gravity but it doesnt have a law of should there be reparations. White people are unique in ending slavery across the world*. Olusoga is making an appeal to white guilt. "The phenomena of which he is iconic is one that we have written out, edited out of our nation. Id agree that attitudes in the UK are approaching that situation, but theres still a long, long way to go yet. (Britain expended blood and treasure on ending the slave trade, and thereby paid its moral debt already is one way of trying to resolve it, but rather unsatisfactory at righting the wrongs done to those who had already fallen victim to the trade.) No one has said we should not consider someone elses viewpoint. Tull played professional football for Northampton but instead of signing up for Glasgow Rangers, he enlisted. Those who grew rich on slavery and the slave trade were not neutral and no achievement or act of philanthropy justifies airbrushing their involvement from history. First launched in London in 1987, it aims to highlight and celebrate what black people have achieved in Britain throughout history. Video, 00:02:30Should black history be taught all year round? "They look to history not just for inspiration and comfort, not just for heroes and for glorious chapters; they look for history expecting to find challenging stories, painful stories, dark truths, villains as well as heroes. They all get it from White people inciting violence. BLM is after political or financial advantages because of slavery. I imagine few do. I havent said anything about my personal sense of guilt or responsibility. Then a young teenager, he was driven out of his council home, together with his grandmother, mother, two sisters and younger brother, by a sustained campaign of nightly stoning of their windows. Instead he has become a campaigner working to discredit Britain, the country that has educated him, promoted him and brought him fame and acceptance. Would probably have taken your suggestion as a challenge. Everyone was. Grew up in Quedlinburg. So there were times when food was expensive, we can call those shortages or famines. Shouldnt matter whether some long-dead relative fought long ago for or against (not at all to disparage your ancestors GC, who all sound very sound) in terms of whether somethings your fault. Like the Nigerian slavers who enslaved and sold the slaves, you mean? So my advice would be, for his own health, STFU. Deliberately shipping that many people that far in order to participate in a newly-created society whose economic system was designed, pretty much from the ground up, around slave labour? Oblong, I cant see this one surviving people being expected to dig into their pockets for a few trillion. (and white people was pretty much the British). In the late 1800's and early 1900's, 30,000 Jewish migrants from Russia and Eastern Europe settled in Manchester. It's against this backdrop that Black British History Month was created. There is no reason to think that slavery was nicer in Africa. It could have ended earlier, but the planter interests in parliament defeated William Wilberforces attempts. Just how much should Olusoga receive? If we went down this route thered be goodness knows how much fun and games to be had with legal claims over the treatment of Irish by Cromwell, the clearing of the Highlands and so on, before you even get on to the globe-spanning imperial stuff. But those were in those long-lost days when democrats and republicans could talk to each other and agree to disagree while both leaving the conversation a little the wiser.. It was such a brilliantly organised programme of mass protest that slavery was declared abolished in 1833: 46,000 slave owners were given 20m in compensation (17bn in todays money), the largest payout in British history and 40 per cent of all government spending that year. This is indeed tu quoque. That hes able to write this article is because hes living in what is, by historical standards, a remarkably tolerant society. Black history: Should it be part of the wider curriculum? "Equiano is the most important voice that we have from the British experience of slavery and the slave trade," he said. How could Britain, a civilised and Christian nation, indulge in rape, torture, killing and the forced labour of Africans over two centuries? But it is also likely that disease played a role. Should black history be taught all year round? And so many hundreds of thousands of British workers were directly dependent on slavery (from sailors to those who built, rigged and repaired ships) that it was easy to turn a blind eye to the inhumanity. That is a strawman argument at its best. Once insignificant villages, great cities such as Liverpool, Bristol and Glasgow sprang up on the profits of slavery. And I dont think this is what reparations campaigners are calling for either, as I understand it their argument includes systematic legacy issues not just the period of slavery itself, so the harm relates more directly to them not just their ancestors. Thousands of petitions were presented to parliament. At the moment it seems to regarded as a good thing. In dealing with the black contribution to the First World War, for example, he cites popular gratitude and admiration for black Britons among them Walter Tull, who fought on the Western Front. Quite possibly slave-raiding Gaels before that. Maybe someone should advise him to button his lip before he stirs up something he may not like. But morals are very transient things. Various among the societies that were agglomerated into Nigeria were more or less involved in that slave trade from the supply end. What would happen to that money, who knows, but as its (or was) your money, thats between you and your grifter of choice. Whitey bad, give me cash? Anglo-Saxons had slaves. (As the first person to mention the Sokoto Caliphate ahh, forget it.). To be honest, I was a bit sceptical about the Olympics coming to London, but the atmosphere across the capital was genuinely wonderful . As Black British History Month draws to a close, TV historian Prof David Olusoga looks at the impact it's had - and how young people are taking it on. Shouldnt Olusoga be writing in Ubangi bantu-language? But any planter who deliberately starved his slaves to death would quickly go bust. Would the good professor really be so different if genealogical records could prove he had African ancestors who owned African slaves? The rest apart from Ireland (17, partly due to influence of aforementioned Patrick) set it younger. Giles Terera, the Olivier award-winning British performer who starred in the popular theatre production Hamilton, has . 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One issue about Westerners buying slaves via a chain of commerce that often ultimately involved Africans selling other Africans at traditional slave-trading locations (there was some slave-raiding by Europeans directly, but rarer) is that the extra demand distorted the market, led directly to more armed slave-raiding expeditions against rival tribes and so on. MyBurningEars August 30, 2020 at 3:31 pm Deliberately shipping that many people that far in order to participate in a newly-created society whose economic system was designed, pretty much from the ground up, around slave labour?, True that unlike certain other examples of slavery, you werent likely to be killed as part of a religious sacrifice or as part of your owners funeral., But there have been other societies with slavery where slaves had more autonomy and a greater chance of buying their freedom.. Their cities, as well as their comfort, will rapidly decay. In the case of slavery the answer is clear. Slaves were crowded in a new environment with new diseases. He writes to inflame white guilt, so that you will ACCEPT destruction of your culture. The Royal African Company, established by Charles II in 1672, eventually enslaved and transported more Africans than any other company in British history. They included Josiah Wedgwood (the pottery entrepreneur), Granville Sharp and Thomas Clarkson. When I met her, ~1995, I started asking her questions about the war, as I thought she was a fabulous resource of information. Particularly as nowadays anyone who dares even look at someone a few days below the age of consent is believed to be an incorrigible nonce who deserves hanging, castration, or castration by hanging. Theres probably more mileage in my country, or at least its historical incarnation, fought against it because unlike the actual people involved, the state is still around. White people will take it. The Westman Islands of Iceland have an interesting history in terms of European slavery a major rebellion of presumably mostly Irish (Westmen) slaves was put down there in the typically brutal Scandinavian manner, hence the name, but in the 1600s the local inhabitants were themselves enslaved by Barbary pirates and taken to Algiers, from where a few were ransomed back and one wrote about the experience. The details of difference are fairly minor. Olusoga poses as an objective historian and says he is not there to bring comfort to people. Again, not that these market forces absolve the sellers of a moral responsibility, but there is an argument occasionally deployed that slaves would have been slaves anyway. 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